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by Julien Climent

Hi everyone, I understand clearly the answer about Carsten. But like I said the source file from a sound mixing in our studio, was used a lot of time for many DCP in many theaters. And when the DCP was made with the version 2.8.0 it was awesome! The clicking problems arrived with the 2.9.0 and after. I have some software for check the levels and it was not very high when the clicking appears. All my best Julien Climent La Planète Rouge 83, av. de la Pointe Rouge 13008 MARSEILLE +33698177663 www.laplaneterouge.fr > Le 15 nov. 2016 à 13:00, dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net a écrit : > > Send DCPomatic mailing list submissions to > dcpomatic(a)carlh.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dcpomatic-owner(a)carlh.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DCPomatic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sound clicking problems on versions 2.9 (Julien Climent) > 2. Re: Sound clicking problems on versions 2.9 (Carsten Kurz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:34:24 +0100 > From: Julien Climent <julien(a)laplaneterouge.fr> > To: carl(a)dcpomatic.com, dcpomatic(a)carlh.net > Subject: [DCP-o-matic] Sound clicking problems on versions 2.9 > Message-ID: <BA08534F-BBB0-4F8B-B9EE-685AF263726C(a)laplaneterouge.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Carl, > I made in the summer DCPs with 2.8.0 version and It was perfect. > And now with the 2.9.0 and 2.9.39 version, I have to redo some new versions with english subtitles and I have a lot of sound clicking problems. > I use the same 5.1 sound file. > Any ideas? > > Best Regards. > > > Julien Climent > La Planète Rouge > 83, av. de la Pointe Rouge > 13008 MARSEILLE > France > +33698177663 > www.laplaneterouge.fr > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 16:42:06 +0100 > From: Carsten Kurz <audiovisual(a)t-online.de> > To: dcpomatic net carlh <DCPomatic(a)carlh.net> > Subject: Re: [DCP-o-matic] Sound clicking problems on versions 2.9 > Message-ID: <F51F25D1-6A87-4120-9134-28F9E7E905E1(a)t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Am 14.11.2016 um 15:34 schrieb Julien Climent via DCPomatic: > >> Hi Carl, >> I made in the summer DCPs with 2.8.0 version and It was perfect. >> And now with the 2.9.0 and 2.9.39 version, I have to redo some new versions with english subtitles and I have a lot of sound clicking problems. >> I use the same 5.1 sound file. >> Any ideas? > > > 'Sounds' like a clipping issue to me, your source files may have to much gain, and/or you mixed together multiple streams into the same DCP target audio channel. Check your audio matrix. > > DCP-o-matic should give you an indication in the hints window. You can also analyse the issue in the audio levels graph. > > If you can't find anything, upload the audio MXF part of the DCP for us to analyse it. You can also do that yourself with Audacity and the FFMPEG library installed (it will open your audio MXF and you can check the audio levels there). > > Your analysis folder in the project folder may also help Carl. > > > > Ciao - Carsten > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > DCPomatic mailing list > DCPomatic(a)carlh.net > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > > > ------------------------------ > > End of DCPomatic Digest, Vol 51, Issue 4 > ****************************************

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[DCP-o-matic] Getting Doremi server key from serial number

by Jim Dummett

Hi all. Apologies that this is a bit of a "noob" question and not actually related to DCP-o-matic, but Google is not my friend today it seems, and I'm sure someone here know the answer. I'm co-ordinating delivery of an encrypted DCP feature made by someone else to a cinema. The filmmakers need the server cert to make a KDM. The only information the cinema has been able to give me is "Doremi DCP-2K4 serial no. <six digit number>". Is there any online database to look up the server cert from the serial number? I really hope that this information is not proprietary. The clue that it shouldn't be is the word "public" in "public key cryptography"! Many thanks, Jim

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[DCP-o-matic] Version 2.10.0 release candidate

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all, Version 2.9.40 which is here: http://dcpomatic.com/test-download is a release candidate for 2.10.0. If you get the chance, please test and report any show-stopping problems! I'll probably put out 2.10.0 some time tomorrow if nothing bad becomes apparent. Thank you, Carl

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[DCP-o-matic] Need DCP in MPEG2

by Aditya Deshlahra

I need to convert my 30sec. Commercial to DCP but MPEG2 and not 2k. By using DCP-o-matic, I was able to create and running the file in Local theater showed this error:- "An existing connection was forcibly closed by remote host." Please help.

8 years, 5 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Dual E5-2670 (e.g. HP Z620/820) - anyone?

by Carsten Kurz

Hi there, does anyone use a single or dual E5-2670 machine with DCP-o-matic? - Carsten

8 years, 6 months

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[DCP-o-matic] String freeze for 2.10.0: call for translators

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all, I will not change any more translatable strings in DCP-o-matic before the release of 2.10.0. If you have time over the next week or so to tend to any of the translations: http://dcpomatic.com/i18n (or even provide a new one!) it would be great to hear from you. All the best, Carl

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[DCP-o-matic] Templates

by Carsten Kurz

Hi Carl, what is actually stored in templates? - Carsten

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[DCP-o-matic] Problem with very. 2 on iMac

by MARCO RECALCHI

Hi, when I start DCP o-Matic 2 my system (Yosemite) start to analyze the software without open it. I downloaded latest version. What’s the problem? Regards Marco MARCO RECALCHI Cell. +39.393.3917378 www.ikonafilm.com marco.recalchi(a)me.com

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[DCP-o-matic] Supplementals for signed unecnrypted DCP

by Manuel AC

I ask for your experience on this. I never fully understood the signing thing. Can I create a supplemental for a signed unencrypted DCP that I didn't create? I always thought that it's not possible, as I don't have the adequate certificates. I heard that an unsigned Interop supplemental may work, even with encrypted material on the new CPL. A couple tests with DOM failed, but I'm not really sure if it was something else. Thanks! Manuel AC -- http://akadcp.com/ https://www.facebook.com/akadcp

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[DCP-o-matic] DCP won't work

by Evan Schwenterly

Hi there! I am using the most current version of DCP-O-Matic on a Mac system. Following the instructions I authored a feature-length DCP to a mac formatted drive. Everything seems to check out. The projectionist at the theater reported that the drive would not work at all (due to their system being a PC). I then created an Ex-FAT drive with the same DCP package files, but the Projectionist reported his system could not see any packages present to load. What should I do? We have an important screening in a few days. I do not have access to a PC - is there any way that I can create a workable DCP using a mac? Regards, Evan Sent from my iPhone

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[DCP-o-matic] Waimea

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all, Does anybody have access to a Waimea KDM-creation system? I'm after a favour to create a KDM for me. Thanks, Carl

8 years, 7 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Program Keeps Crashing

by Cavan, John

Hey there, we are trying to play our film at a theatre for our world premiere. The theatre is requesting us to convert it to DCP using your program. I am trying to convert the full rez of our movie (92gb) it keeps crashing at different points during the conversion. We have followed all the steps in the instructions and it has crashed on us about ten different times on 3 different computers. The file is Prores 422 HQ Also once we get it converted how do we check the quality of it without being in the theatre, We obviously want it to be the vest version possible so I’m pretty nervous about this conversion process. Any help you could give me would be great John Cavan VIDEO PRODUCTION MANAGER SNOWBOARDER MAGAZINE P: 949-325-6343 · C: 802-488-0405 2052 Corte Del Nogal Carlsbad CA, 92011 EnthusiastNetwork.com<http://www.enthusiastnetwork.com/> [The Enthusiast Network]<http://www.enthusiastnetwork.com/> [The Enthusiast Network]<https://www.facebook.com/TENenthusiast>[The Enthusiast Network]<http://instagram.com/TENenthusiast>[The Enthusiast Network]<https://twitter.com/TENEnthusiast>[The Enthusiast Network]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/ten-the-enthusiast-network>[The Enthusiast Network]<https://plus.google.com/b/115434875693523823230/115434875693523823230/posts>

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[DCP-o-matic] Encrypted DCP leaked ?

by Gérald Maruccia

Hi, https://torrentfreak.com/pirates-plunder-4k-hateful-eight-but-did-they-crac… If true I just hope no open-source software is involved… Any thoughts ? Best regards, Gérald

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[DCP-o-matic] Toronto - TIFF rejection.

by Eggert Baldvinsson

Hi just sent a film encoded with DCP Omatic to TIFF film festival. It was rejected. Here is the info from Technicolor > #1: The video mxf does not contain a "Random Index Point (RIP)"/ The file format is not proper OP-Atom/AS-DCP. This fails Wailua and ADSCP. > bkv. / with regards Eggert Baldvinsson Senior Colorist eggert(a)rgb.is +354-6995444 mobile +354-4142040 desk

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Re: [DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic over WAN

by Davide Sanvito

Ok got it. Thank you for your valuable replies. Searching more carefully in the ML archives I also found a message from you about the infeasibility of cloud-based encoding with a poor internet connection. Thanks again! Davide 2016-09-06 13:00 GMT+02:00 <dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net>: > Send DCPomatic mailing list submissions to > dcpomatic(a)carlh.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dcpomatic-owner(a)carlh.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DCPomatic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 (Davide Sanvito) > 2. Re: DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 (Manuel AC) > 3. Re: DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 (Carsten Kurz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 19:36:49 +0200 > From: Davide Sanvito <dsanvito90(a)gmail.com> > To: dcpomatic(a)carlh.net > Subject: Re: [DCP-o-matic] DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 > Message-ID: > <CAJ-RJ=WuMX_dDuoTtERhx0AQdkWdPzhrRG7zYbpsk > MsATKLiSw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Carsten, > no I didn't. What is the typical bandwidth? > Thanks, > Davide > > 2016-09-05 13:00 GMT+02:00 <dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net>: > > > Send DCPomatic mailing list submissions to > > dcpomatic(a)carlh.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > dcpomatic-owner(a)carlh.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of DCPomatic digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: DCP-o-matic over WAN (Carsten Kurz) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 17:43:02 +0200 > > From: Carsten Kurz <audiovisual(a)t-online.de> > > To: dcpomatic carlh net <DCPomatic(a)carlh.net> > > Subject: Re: [DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic over WAN > > Message-ID: <C71EA227-3506-4BC0-8082-5EAF69D9DA9E(a)t-online.de> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Am 03.09.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Davide Sanvito via DCPomatic: > > > > > Hi all, > > > I wonder if it would be possible to run encode server instances through > > the Internet, rather than through a LAN. > > > > Hmm, why would you want to do that? Did you consider the typical > bandwidth > > needs for sending and receiving image data? > > > > - Carsten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > DCPomatic mailing list > > DCPomatic(a)carlh.net > > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 > > **************************************** > > >

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Re: [DCP-o-matic] DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2

by Davide Sanvito

Hi Carsten, no I didn't. What is the typical bandwidth? Thanks, Davide 2016-09-05 13:00 GMT+02:00 <dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net>: > Send DCPomatic mailing list submissions to > dcpomatic(a)carlh.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dcpomatic-request(a)carlh.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dcpomatic-owner(a)carlh.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DCPomatic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: DCP-o-matic over WAN (Carsten Kurz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 17:43:02 +0200 > From: Carsten Kurz <audiovisual(a)t-online.de> > To: dcpomatic carlh net <DCPomatic(a)carlh.net> > Subject: Re: [DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic over WAN > Message-ID: <C71EA227-3506-4BC0-8082-5EAF69D9DA9E(a)t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Am 03.09.2016 um 12:48 schrieb Davide Sanvito via DCPomatic: > > > Hi all, > > I wonder if it would be possible to run encode server instances through > the Internet, rather than through a LAN. > > Hmm, why would you want to do that? Did you consider the typical bandwidth > needs for sending and receiving image data? > > - Carsten > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > DCPomatic mailing list > DCPomatic(a)carlh.net > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic > > > ------------------------------ > > End of DCPomatic Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 > **************************************** >

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[DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic over WAN

by Davide Sanvito

Hi all, I wonder if it would be possible to run encode server instances through the Internet, rather than through a LAN. If I understood correctly, the current implementation is something like this: The master dcpomatic2 broadcasts in its LAN a "I mean really, Ray, it's used." msg to UDP/6193 to trigger a <ServerAvailable> msg back to its TCP/6193 from an eventual dcpomatic2_server instance. Once the master has content to encode, it sends <EncodingRequest> to the encoding servers on TCP/6192. Forgetting about the automatic encoding server discovery part, a possible approach would be something similar to what Jim proposed at http://main.carlh.net/pipermail/dcpomatic/2016-May/001562.html by means of SSH local port forwarding. In this way, the only required modification would be adding a user-specified port for the encoding server list. Do you have any other idea? Can this be considered a legit new feature? Thanks in advance! Davide Sanvito

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[DCP-o-matic] subtitle retiming

by Manuel AC

Always having the same doubt. Are the subtitles retimed according to the main content? For example a 23.976 that dom convert to 24, are the separate sound files or the subtitles also retimed automatically? I know there are a couple mantis reports related to this, not sure what the current version does. Thanks! Manuel AC

8 years, 8 months

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[DCP-o-matic] 120fps possible?

by Jonathan K. F. Jensen

Hi all. Does anyone know if there is a workaround to go outside the fixed framerates in the dropdown menu and make, say a 120fps DCP? I'd like to create a test DCP (ahead of 'Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk') in 120fps 2K 2D. Thanks :) --Jonathan

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Re: [DCP-o-matic] KDM time specifications: cinema local?

by Carl Hetherington

On Wed, 17 Aug 2016, Carsten Kurz wrote: > > Am 17.08.2016 um 15:41 schrieb Carl Hetherington via DCPomatic: > > > Hi all, > > > > It occurred to me that when specifying KDM time windows we should probably > > use time local to the cinema that the KDM is for. That is, if I made KDMs > > for cinemas in London and New York, and specified a window of > > 13:00-16:00, those times would be set so that the London KDM would open at > > 1pm London time and the New York KDM would open at 1pm New York time. > > > > Hmm. But I thought that was already the case with the current system? Oh dear. It is! Please ignore me and carry on! /me crawls back under rock

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[DCP-o-matic] KDM time specifications: cinema local?

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all, It occurred to me that when specifying KDM time windows we should probably use time local to the cinema that the KDM is for. That is, if I made KDMs for cinemas in London and New York, and specified a window of 13:00-16:00, those times would be set so that the London KDM would open at 1pm London time and the New York KDM would open at 1pm New York time. This would require that the UTC offset for each cinema in the database was set correctly. Does this seem like a good idea to those of you making KDMs? Kind regards, Carl

8 years, 8 months

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[DCP-o-matic] 3D issue

by Kent Bailey

Hello, I love your program! We use it for our local non profit theater and it has been working great! Our projector has recently stopped liking our pre-show for some reason when it comes to the 3D shows, so they have suggested creating a pre-show using a 3D setting, even though the pre-show is not shown in 3D. When I try this I continue to get the error that is attached to this message. I'm wondering if I need to use a video file that has been rendered in 3D? Right now I'm using a wmv video file that is not 3D. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Kent Bailey OHP Marketing Services 888-722-4484 515-832-4484 Fax 1-866-762-9114 www.ohpmarketingservices.com Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/OHP-Marketing-Services-120150758057045/timeline/?r…> Google+ <https://www.google.com/+OHPMarketingServicesWebsterCity> This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.

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[DCP-o-matic] dcpomatic encoding stuck at 0%

by Markus Kalb

Greetings DCPoMatic mailinglist, I'm encountering an odd bug(?) during "cluster" encoding with 4 dcpomatic2_cli_server encoding servers and one master. The setup worked for years without problems till now. Complicating bug detection is that it works some times and gets stuck other times. With the same source data! Some Information about my setup all using dcpomatic 2.9 (deb) Running ubuntu 14.04 master (headless) + enc1 (kvm VM) * amd64 8core 4GHz * prep is done on different Desktop using same path structure or with dcpomatic2_create * dcpomatic2_cli is running with "only Enc Server" options and there is a dcpomatic2_server_cli -t 8 or -t14 on the same VM (results in much better frames/s when it works compared to encoding it inside "dcpomatic2_cli" on the master during cluster encode. enc2 / enc3 / enc4 all ubuntu 14.04 * 4cores / 4cores / 2cores Hardware machines testing different thread counts for cli_server with -t 8 / -t 4 / -t 2 storage * nfs * debian 7.x (kvm VM) All are conected with a hp pro curve 1GB lan The syslog files on all machines only show normal messages! The crazy part is that in about 95% of the stuck cases i can encode the movie with only changing it with running "dcpomatic2_cli -r XXX" I have included two dcpomatic log files with max debug options ... -- Markus Kalb 06151-16-27 27 0 0177-240 98 95 mk(a)filmkreis.tu-darmstadt.de Studentischer Filmkreis an der TU Darmstadt e.V.

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[DCP-o-matic] 'Nudge Buttons'

by Carsten Kurz

Hi Carl, what does this mean? 'Shift/control/shift+control clicks make nudge buttons nudge further.' - Carsten

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[DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic 2.9.0 released

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all, DCP-o-matic 2.9.0 is now available from http://dcpomatic.com/download Changes in this version: * Translations - Updated fr_FR translation from Thierry Journet. - Updated uk_UA and ru_RU translations from Igor Voytovich. - Updated nl_NL translation from Rob van Nieuwkerk. - Updated cs_CZ translation from Tomáš Begeni. - Updated de_DE translation from Carsten Kurz. - Updated pt_BR translation from Max M. Fuhlendorf. * New features / improvements - Support for a wider range of audio file types including MP3. - Reduce CPU usage for the preview. - Large speed-up to operations involving reading DCPs (especially audio). - Recognise .ass files as well as .ssa. - Add labels to audio streams in the audio map (#849). - Add preference for the default number of DCP channels (#897). - Add free-text notes field to cinemas and screens. - Request confirmation before resetting preferences (#867). - Use CPL title for KDM AnnotationTexts. - Add tooltips over content channel names in the audio mapping view (#888). - Re-add option to save DKDMs to a file. - Keep audio plot and video waveform dialogues always on top (#756, #820, #909). - Add Cancel button to custom colour conversion dialogue (#880). - Provide option to abort more operations that require films to be saved (#847). - Add hint on high audio levels (#822). - Remove seconds from KDM time period specification (#819). - Use up-to-date version of FFmpeg. - Change some uses of the word ‘frame’ to ‘sample’ when talking about audio (#814). - Add speculative Rec 1886/2020 presets. - Basic guessing of audio mapping from filenames (#393). - Add button to move a piece of content to the start of a reel (#798). - Allow changes to subtitle line spacing. - Clicks on timecode/frame number open dialogues to allow precise setting of preview position. - Shift/control/shift+control clicks make nudge buttons nudge further. - Experimental Centos 5 packages. * Bug fixes - Fix strange colour fringing on subtitles when burning them into existing DCP content (#752). - Various fixes to text subtitles muxed into video files. - Fix failure to parse SSA subtitles in some cases. - Fix incorrect date when using copy-as-name (#869). - Fix height of content properties dialogue (#884). - Fix recently broken storage of video frame rate (#883). - Fix progress updates when making a VF using new audio. - Disallow referencing of Interop DCPs in SMPTE films, and vice versa (#804). - Fix missing words in properties windows (#874). - Ignore more hidden files when looking in image folders. - Fix creation of 2D DCPs from 3D sources. - Handle import of 3D DCPs better in a few ways (#806). - Fix various bugs in Interop subtitle time parsing. - Build a Windows XP version with OpenJPEG 1.5.x to work around mysterious speed loss. - Various fixes to vertical positioning of subtitles. - Take y scale into account when deciding subtitle line spacing. - Fix thinkos with marked_up() rendering of bold/italic/underline. - Make our own DirPicker wider in the new file dialog (#902). - Correctly display configured italic / bold fonts in the subtitle font selector. - Fix strange crashes at the start of encoding in some cases. - Fix failure to underline subtitles. - Fix crash on loading still images on some Linux builds. - Fix crash when analysing audio of large-channel-count files. - Increase frequency of progress updates on long jobs (#900). - Improve progress reporting when doing image/sound digests. Thanks to Thierry Journet, Carsten Kurz, Igor Voytovich, Rob van Nieuwkerk, Tomáš Begeni, Max M. Fuhlendorf and Xenophon the Vampire. We have added six new supporters since 2.8.0: thanks to Tomislav Stojanović, Paul Carey, Pascal Nussbaum, Robert Legato, Petter Trønsdal and Kino Völkerfreundschaft. You can donate to the project at http://dcpomatic.com/donate With best regards, Carl

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