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by Ben Edwards

Hi, the fiml is 1:48. I started creating DCP then thought I should try just the first 30 mins. When I restarted (after deleting stuff from the directory and setting triming, and not forgetting to press set.) it still says it will take 16 hours. Framerate has gone from 3.9 to 2.6;(. Ben -- *Ben Edwards, Video Editor and Cameraman* *web*:*www.nkytwig.com* <http://funkytwig.com/>* mobile:**07773 02 44 82* *skype**:**funkytwig** twitter:**@funkytwig* <https://twitter.com/funkytwig>iContact Community Video <http://www.icontactvideo.org/> | Bristol Community Channel <http://bristol.mirocommunity.org/>

10 years, 8 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Audio Levels

by Ben Edwards

(This is from a previous tangental thread) "When using DCP-o-Matic, I check if center channel "peak" is around -12db. Certainly not scientific enough but most of the time it ends with a normal human bearable audio level. It becomes more difficult to "predict" with 5.1 audio using phase inversion, as you need all the channels to get not only a good balance but something human-understandable…" Gérald Maruccia I have a 5.1 mix peaking at 0db. Any advise on what to do. I dont quite understand the 'I check if center channel "peak" is around -12db', well I understand what it means but dont know to do it in DCPOMatic. Ben -- *Ben Edwards, Video Editor and Cameraman* *web*:*www.nkytwig.com* <http://funkytwig.com/>* mobile:**07773 02 44 82* *skype**:**funkytwig** twitter:**@funkytwig* <https://twitter.com/funkytwig>iContact Community Video <http://www.icontactvideo.org/> | Bristol Community Channel <http://bristol.mirocommunity.org/>

10 years, 8 months

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[DCP-o-matic] KDM delivery CC: address

by Carsten Kurz

I know it was my own idea - but maybe it is better to make the CC: address a BCC: ? Because in general the KDM receiver shouldn't see it. No big thing, but... Or may just offer both, I think there is still enough space on that tab. Commercial KDM delivery emails usually have a bunch of recipients for internal and external reference. Sometimes half a dozen people receive an individual KDM Email. - Carsten

10 years, 8 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Prores 422 vs 4444

by Ben Edwards

Been doing some digging and it seems 4444 may be overkill. The colourspace and bit depth are higher (bit depth 12) but if this is beyond DCP is seems pointless. Also in the preview (after file imported) when I look at same clip in 422 and 4444 the 4444 one looks pookier with better blacks and the 422 one looks a little flat/washed out. Is this just the preview? Has anyone done any comparisons on high end footage? Ben -- *Ben Edwards, Video Editor and Cameraman* *web*:*www.nkytwig.com* <http://funkytwig.com/>* mobile:**07773 02 44 82* *skype**:**funkytwig** twitter:**@funkytwig* <https://twitter.com/funkytwig>iContact Community Video <http://www.icontactvideo.org/> | Bristol Community Channel <http://bristol.mirocommunity.org/>

10 years, 8 months

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[DCP-o-matic] 5:1 audio trouble

by Tom Rovak

I am adding 6 audio channels but my audio content only shows 1. Tom Rovak - Executive Producer / Sr. Colorist / Post Production Supervisor ROVAK COLORIST SERVICES A Division Of The Annex Studios Commercials, Feature Films, Music Videos, Long Form Color Correction, Dailies, Editorial, Finish/VFX trovak(a)comcast.net (815)690-8323 Website / Commercial Reel: http://colorist-rovak.com/

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Windows Notebook falling to sleep during Encoding went sent to background

by Carsten Kurz

YES, it IS a boring flic, indeed, but does that justify falling to sleep while rendering a DCP? 1.72.2/64 After starting the DCP job, I just switched to the Desktop to inspect a folder and left it like this. After a while I came back and the notebook is sleeping. After waking it up, it continues rendering without any messages or errors. I'm just wondering wether the encoded images/MXF are correct? Is this normal? I remember reading some issues about fixes against machines falling to sleep in some release notes. - Carsten

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] KDM - Playout window local time

by Carsten Kurz

Carl, how is DCP-o-matic dealing with local time/GMT when creating the KDM and during email transmission? Will it automatically convert local machine time to GMT according to machine time settings? Then how is $START_TIME and $END_TIME calculated and displayed? All KDM providers we dealt with so far automatically convert to local time for Email transmission notification text. That is because they have a location and time-zone associated to every cinema in their database. - Carsten

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] DKDM

by fred.bobigny＠laposte.net

Hi, When generating an encrypted DCP with DCP-o-matic, where can I find the DKDM in metadata file? What does it look like? Thanks for sharing your knowledge :) Fred

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic 1.72.0 released

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all, DCP-o-matic 1.72.0 was released. This is mostly to fix a bug causing crashes on analysing audio (and possibly also on DCP creation). We also have: Potential improvements in encoding speed, especially on fast clients. Allow specification of video frame rate for cases where content headers are read incorrectly. Support for different KDM formulations: Modified Transitional 1, DCP any and DCP specified. Thanks to Matthias Damm and Daniel Chauvet. Download it from: http://dcpomatic.com/download Best regards Carl

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] recursion

by Carsten Kurz

Right now it is not good for much, but still interesting - ffmpeg added J2k MXF support a while ago, and since dcp-o-matic uses ffmpegfor input, it is actually possible to feed a DCP-o-matic generated J2k-MXF (or from any other unencrypted DCP) into DCP-o-matic as source content. Right now, the only option then is to recompress it into another MXF, which is hardly exciting. But - wouldn't this be a starting point for 'unwrapping' and transcoding of existing DCPs to other formats, again by using FFMPEG, this time for ouput? - Carsten

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Cant open DNxHD mov

by Ben Edwards

I have edited a short in Premiere Pro and wish to turn it into a DCP. I Exported it using Media Encoder to Avid DNxHD 24fps 10bit. Wnen I try to open the file in DCP-O-Matic I get an error saying ti can not open the file and if I click on Details button I get [image: Inline images 3] Any ideas? Should I export to a different codec? Ben -- *Ben Edwards, Video Editor/Colorist & Cameraman* *web*:*www.funkytwig.com* <http://funkytwig.com>* mobile:**07773 02 44 82* *skype**:**funkytwig** twitter:**@funkytwig* <https://twitter.com/funkytwig> If you are a freelancer FreeAgent is a great system to do your accounts, if you use http://www.freeagent.com/?referrer=42j4d743 (referal code is 42j4d743) you get 10% off each month.

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] ARCENe certificates not accepted

by fred.bobigny＠laposte.net

Hi, While trying to generate a KDM, I get an error message with certificates downloaded from ARCENe database: "could not read certificate file (not X509...)". Is there a trick? https://www.cnc-arcene.fr/ Fred

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] details for command line

by fred.bobigny＠laposte.net

Hi, Is there somewhere more details on syntax if using DCPomatic thru CLI? I've tried ">dcpomatic --help" and ">dcpomatic_cli --help" but there is not much to drink and I'm really thirsty... Thanks, Fred

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Suggestion - Link to naming convention

by Carsten Kurz

There are two places in DCP-o-matic dealing with ISDCF Name details - preferences and DCP tab. There is enough space around this selection boxes, so why not include a clickable link next to it to: http://digitalcinemanamingconvention.com/ ? - Carsten

10 years, 9 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Installer options

by Carsten Kurz

Suggestion: Add option to windows installer for a choice to install only for the current or all users. Makes it easier to use the encode server component on standard/non-admin user accounts. - Carsten

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] videos is copied or hardlinked?

by Manuel AC

I remember something about the mxf file being hardlinked and not copied from the "video" directory to the final DCP directory, or moved as the sound mxf. But OSX keeps giving the size of the full project directory as about double the size of the DCP. And had many times the error when trying to make the DCP sirectly in the usb key where I intended to deliver the DCP, so just slightly bigger than the expected size, not double. If the files are actually copied, an option to specify a different location for the result DCP will be great in many many cases. Thanks! Manuel AC

10 years, 10 months

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Re: [DCP-o-matic] Benchmarks/network coding

by Carsten Kurz

Am 24.06.2014 um 23:30 schrieb Jonathan K. F. Jensen: > So the master isn't doing any j2k encoding? > If that's the case, I guess the best master would be one with multiple bundled NIC's and some fast disk storage, while the CPU speed wouldn't really matter. > Only on the "slaves" would CPU matter. > Did I get that scenario right? > Hmm, Carl would know for sure, but from my network benchmarks it seems that the master is still doing a full image/compression pipeline per configured thread in addition to supplying raw images to remote nodes. In the case of e.g. Big Buck Bunny the 'Master' would actually be bored when only supplying a bunch of unprocessed 853*480 pix to the remote nodes. As long as we think of a 'classic' DCP-o-matic workflow, that is, conversion of pre-encoded video to J2k-MXFs, I think mass storage performance is not so important - because we come from a low-bandwith compressed video format and go to a medium-bandwith compressed format. Again, in the case of Big Buck Bunny, we have a videostream of 11Mbyte (that fits into the filesystem cache) with around 350KByte/s and end up with two MXFs at something like 25MByte/s - but with the encoding an thus file write performance on said CPUs is taking place at half realtime speed. So, typically we come from something like 1MByte/s and go to 15Mbyte/s. That's well within the limits of common single drive hard discs. This, of course, changes dramatically when working from uncompressed single image sequences (like most other DCP encoding tools do), or very high quality FullHD sources with low compression ratios. - Carsten

10 years, 10 months

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Re: [DCP-o-matic] Benchmarks/network coding

by Carsten Kurz

Am 27.06.2014 um 09:58 schrieb Jonathan K. F. Jensen: > Hi Carsten. > > Thanks for the explanation, I see your point. > My source material is everything from a single tiff/jpg/png (for slides), to Prores 10bit, 4:4:4. > I have been wondering if it could speed up the encode on the 'Master' by adding a SSD and be able to point DCP-OMatic to that as a 'Scratch' disk. > Just a thought :) SSDs will certainly add something to performance when going from that class of source content to J2k, but as every machine's J2k coding capabilities quickly max out, it won't be a massive boost I guess. Some of those machines I gave Carl benchmark data had SSDs, but it wasn't really visible from the results. But then again, they were all only testing on 'tiny' big buck bunny ;-) When a GPU assisted OpenJPEG will be there, mass storage performance might become more important. Carl - did you ever think about implementing support for e.g. Kakadu? I'm quite okay with the current coding speed and options for network rendering, but I'm not using it for large projects on a daily basis like others might do. - Carsten

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] DCP-o-matic 1.70.0 is now available

by Carl Hetherington

Hi all DCP-o-matic 1.70.0 was released. This version includes: Updates to the de_DE translation from Carsten Kurz. A fairly big code rearrangement to improve speed of encoding of DCPs from sets of images. Improvements to the KDM dialog which now takes CPLs rather than DCPs. It also allows you to specify any CPL to generate a KDM for. Improvements to the timeline dialog when dragging content over other content. Various fixes to uses of separate audio files with accompanying non-standard frame rate video; video rates are now derived from simultaneous video sources. New "scale to fit width" and "scale to fit height" options to adjust scaling and cropping of a source to fit the DCP's container. Use the ISCDF DCP naming contention version 9. Some fixes to audio analyses when channel mappings are changed. Fix to linkage of command line tools on OS X. Fix to crash when the timeline window is opened when there is no content. Fixes for crashes when using sources with more than 8 audio channels. Fix for bug where video would not be re-made if subtitles were turned on. Speculative fix for completely broken DCP XML files in some locales. Possible fix for missing bits at the end of FFmpeg content with negative start times. Option to allow any DCP frame rate, not just the ‘approved’ ones. Audio gain can be specified in fractional dBs Work-around out-of-memory crash when using large start trims Fix incorrect labels for some audio channels in some locales. Add slightly better and more configurable logging. Thanks to Sumit Guha, Pradeep, Carsten Kurz, Matthias Damm, Bill Hamell and Daniel Chauvet. Download it from http://dcpomatic.com/download Best regards Carl

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Benchmarks/network coding

by Carsten Kurz

Attached two pictures with recent benchmarks, using 1.69.xx. One single machine testing, one network. The single machine lists only the peak performance runs, as most machines were tested with different encode thread numbers to find the best setting. It can be seen that 'overthreading' will help a lot on current multicore CPUs. Be aware, though, that this might crash the software if running under WIN32 OS. I can easily be seen that the price/performance sweetspot is with the 6core 3930k/4930k machines. They can even be overclocked to 4.5GHz. This CPU costs only around 500€ or so. This is also reflected in the CPU Passmark list: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html I was always skeptical about network encoding with regard to achieving very high conversion rates, because I thought a typical network (even gigabit) would saturate too quickly, already around 10fps or so. I was wrong. I set up a test at a clients site with a couple of (mostly) older Macs, connected through a simple Gigabit switch. Nothing really fancy. Two iMac-i5 were the most beefy machines. The network still outperforms the fastest (and most expensive) dual Xeon machines. These tests also show that the J2k coding on the Mac is at least as efficient as under Windows. Although I still have to perform the identical test on a Mac with OSX vs Bootcamp one time. The network test was done with all machines running OS X, adding one machine by one and running a BigBuckBunny encoding for each set. And of course this was using Carls standard Bunny benchmark metadata, so 2k - the network load may look VERY different when using 4k... It's interesting to see that the 'Master', an outdated Xeon 3530, is able to supply so many frames to the clients and is still encoding many frames itself. Only with the last iMac-i5 added to the network I could see the occasional drop in CPU load on it, but very short and rare. I guess I could have gotten near 20fps by adding another. The number is missing in the table, but aggregated single CPU fps for all machines used is around 19 - that's just 2fps loss in the network coding performance. Good work, Carl! Also, not a single run exhibited problems. No crashes, no lost frames, etc. I also did a SINTEL run on the same network, giving the same performance (17.3fps) and taking just 20min runtime. Carl - what is now done on the render clients - only J2k, or also colour conversion, scaling, etc.?

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] weird colors

by Manuel AC

Maybe someone else had a similar issue. Did a short film, mostly B&W. In a quick projection test I saw some, very few images with posterized green colors, and it's not an effect of the film. Cinemaplayer renders it perfectly from the mxf, and I'm wondering if it's a problem with the cinema (Doremi+Christie), but I don't have easy access to it. It's worth trying another codification? like going the long way with opendcp. Oh yeah, the source is a prores 4:3 interlaced SD with rectangular pixels, funny stuff. The deinterlacing filter made the weirdest flashing colors, so I deinterlaced before, but scaling and stretching is done in dcpomatic. Any ideas? Thanks! Manuel AC

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Color shift

by Mattias Mattsson

Hi all, A friend of mine found this page from a post house that has done some testing with regards to color shift of Pro Res in qt: http://www.stopp.se/lab-testing-the-pro-in-apple-prores/ Also there is the lutyuv filter in ffmpeg that could possibly correct for this. E.g. (example arguments): -filter:v lutyuv="y=gammaval(0.96),u=gammaval(1.04),v=gammaval(1)" -- -mattias

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] New scaling options

by Carsten Kurz

'New "scale to fit width" and "scale to fit height" options to adjust scaling and cropping of a source to fit the DCP's container.' Hmm, why do I find these in the DropDown Menu, instead of in 'Video' where the other scaling options are? - Carsten

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] ISCDF DCP naming contention version 9

by Jonathan K. F. Jensen

Hi Carl. Just a heads up. In the current test version (v1.69.35), the DCP naming convention v9 isn't completely integrated as far I can see. Currently, if I put in this text in the 'Name' box: *ActionNightTF4* I get this as DCP name: *Actionnighttf4* Only the first letter is capitalized, even though the v9 of the naming convention says the following about the Film Title field: "Words should be seperated by initial caps: MovieTitle". Please let me know if I have overlooked something. Thanks for a continuing fantastic effort with DCP-O-Matic (can't be said enough)!! Best regards, Jonathan

10 years, 10 months

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[DCP-o-matic] Preference location?

by Carsten Kurz

Probably interesting to more than just me: Where does DCP-o-matic store it's preferences in Win, Mac, Linux versions? I was just trying to zero my Mac version preferences by deleting net.carl.dcpomatic.plist, but it still keeps the previous prefs in the GUI. - Carsten

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