Hello,
I love your program and works great with everything I’m doing for the Melbourne Film Festival that I’m presenting all the entries.
The issue I’m having is a video that was sent in that is a ProRes/.mov video that is 7.1 sound is not automatically populating the sound channels for DCP-O-Matic. Can you help me with this issue?
Billy Both
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Is there a file called "ffprobe.log" in your DCP-o-matic project folder?
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017, Billy Both wrote:
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> Typically when I load in a video, the audio channels have a green mark indicating which channel will be encoded where is needs to go. When I load in this video, it doesn’t show any
> green marks except the center channel. When I analyze the audio, it only shows the center channel and non of the rest of the 7.1.
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> From: Carl Hetherington
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> Subject: Re: [DCP-o-matic] issue with prores file (.mov) not automaticallypopulating sound channels
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> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:19:51 -0400
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> Billy Both via DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
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> > Hello,
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> > I love your program and works great with everything I’m doing for the Melbourne Film Festival that I’m presenting all the entries.
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> >
>
> > The issue I’m having is a video that was sent in that is a ProRes/.mov video that is 7.1 sound is not automatically populating the sound channels for DCP-O-Matic. Can you help me
> with this issue?
>
>
>
> Hi Billy,
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> Can you clarify what you mean by "not automatically populating"? I'm not quite clear on it.
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> Kind regards,
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> Carl
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Am 18.09.2017 um 03:28 schrieb Joshua Achatz:
> I see the 'scale to:' tab, but i don't see 1.78 as an option. i shouldn't leave it at 16:9?
Which version of DOM are you using? 16:9 is the same as 1.78. I knew the Content->'Scale to fit menu' would come over us at one time... ;-)
These two options 'Scale to fit' are basically shortcuts to fill the screen in an easy way - but they usually cause cropping in an uncontrolled way. They should go under the list of other ScaleTo options, but for some reason at the time, there was no space there for it. It's been a while, but I remember no one was really happy with that solution.
Normally, DCP-o-matic detects the aspect ratio of footage automatically, if it is flagged correctly, and if there is no letterboxed content. So, in your case, DOM did probably select 16:9/1.78, and then all you need to do is to confirm the flat container under DCP as far as scaling/aspect ratio goes.
Some people say that 150MBit/s is enough. Yes, may be, but, the 'standard' spec goes up to 250MBit/s, and, with 30fps, you could need a bit more. Chances are high your footage doesn't need it, but as 16:9 is 'near' full frame, and at 30fps, just choose 200MBIt/s and then forget about that setting. If you're picky, use 235MBit/s, but don't try 250!
Yes, you need to crunch through the full file again if you changed the data rate, as that concerns every single frame from the beginning. DCP-o-matic should start encoding from scratch when you change the datarate, but it also could be a point for a nice little bug (I doubt it).
- Carsten
Am 17.09.2017 um 23:15 schrieb Joshua Achatz:
> Thanks for your help.
>
> How do I scale it to 16:9/1.78 and choose a flat container? Sorry, I'm just totally new to this stuff.
I assume you use 2.10.5?
Under 'DCP' choose 'SMPTE' for Standard, container 'Flat' (1998*1080) and for framerate '30fps', 200MBit/s for data rate.
Select your content in content list, then in the Content-> Video Tab -> Scale to: choose '1.78'. Reset all cropping values to 0 if there are any from previous experiments. You should see thin black bars left and right. Color conversion should automatically be set to rec709.
In Prefs->General, you should have ticked 'Find integrated loudness, true peak and loudness range when analysing audio'.
This will give you better numbers to estimate proper audio levels. Do you have a stereo or a surround/center based soundtrack?
Peak values will only indicate wether there is clipping or not. As far as clipping goes, -2.6 is okay. However, this doesn't tell you wether your audio loudness is in the right ballpark for a cinema. Usually, this is not so critical for festivals, but, you should still try to be within the range that is common for cinema operations.
Choose 'Audio'->Show graph of audio levels
Do you have a listing of True Peak, Integrated loudness and loudness range on the bottom of that window? Tell us the value for 'Integrated loudness'.
If there is no such value given, you probably performed the audio analysis before you ticked the advanded audio analysis in prefs. In that case, safe your project, exit DOM, got to the project folder, find and delete a folder 'analysis' within in. Restart DOM, reload your project, select 'Audio'->'Show graph of audio levels'. DOM should now take a bit longer to analyse the audio levels, and should show True Peak, Integrated loudness and loudness range.
- Carsten
Hi Carl,
I am using the DCP-omatic to convert my film for a festival. I'm having a
bit of trouble and hope you can help me.
It was shot in 30fps, but the programs says that is an unusual frame rate.
Should I change it to 24, and if so, do I just change it under the DCP tab?
I want to make sure the video quality won't be compromised. But it sounds
like it's okay to leave it at 30, from what I've heard.
The program is also advising that I create an SMPTE DCP instead of an
interop, because of the frame-rate. What is the difference? Should I do
that?
Also, under the DCP tab, I set the container to 16:9, but the program is
saying if possible to put it in scope or flat, but those aren't the right
size of my film, and leave those black edges on the sides of the picture.
Please help me if you could. I've been working on this for a few days, and
have to complete it soon for it to show in the festival.
Thank you!
Josh
hi all
it seems that my mac os x doesn’t allow to use your downloaded program due to the fact that the origin isn’t the apple store.
what can i do?
thx for your support and wish you a pleasant weekend
peter
Am 04.09.2017 um 13:03 schrieb Lennart Westman:
> Well well, Carsten.
>
> This is probably the. So stupid of me. I am waiting for the audio analysis to terminate, and then I’ll do as you said. Many thanks.
>
Audio analysis can take quite long, especially for full length features and on slower machines. If you are absolutely sure about your audio format and levels, you may disable audio analysis in prefs, so you can continue faster in DOM. You can always perform the analysis later when choosing 'Show audio' levels in content or DCP. Audio levels and channel mappings, however, are quite important for DCP playout in cinemas, so you should never give out a DCP without having done an analysis.
Unlike most other codec-only formats/containers, a DCP is more complex and more parameters have to be set properly, so a 'one-click-conversion' does not make much sense.
- Carsten
Hi,
I wonder if you might have any idea why a rendering process of an mp-4 to
DCP stops after analyzing the audio?
Kind regards
Lennart Westman
Composer, director and filmmaker
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Hi! I can´t add the archive of subtitles when I create the DCP, I wold like why happened this.
Thank you
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About 4 fps in a 12-core MacPro, configured with the default 24 threads.
We have seen much better speeds in this same configuration.
Tested with MKV and Prores sources, with some image modifications, and
no modifications at all. Also tried on a network, with the MacPro as
an encoding server and the laptop with the project not doing any JP2K
encoding. Slightly lower speed as expected. The server log at the
MacPro was giving about 5 seconds per frame, tha seems pretty high to
me.
I recently installed the latest test version 2.11.16, and trying to
troubleshoot I tried with the also installed stable version from late
December, with same speed result.
Are OSX packages statically compiled? or installing the newer test
version may have "damaged" some library shared with the older version?
Anyone else have or had a similar problem?
Thanks!
Manuel AC
Hi
First of all: Thank you very much for your work on DCP-o-matic!!!
Im trying to install a second PC (Live image ISO) to accelerate the
rendering but I have difficulties: the master doesnt recognize the second
PC / encoding server, although it seem so be ready by indicating Offering
services to master 192.168.1.14 (which is the correct IP-address of the
master)
What do I do wrong?
Thanks für your help and kind regards
Martin
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Hi
First of all: Thank you very much for your work on DCP-o-matic!!!
Im trying to install a second PC to accelerate de rendering but I have the
difficulty that the master doesnt recognize the second PC / encoding
server, although it seem so be ready by indicating Offering services to
master 192.168.1.14 (which is the correct IP-address of the master)
What do I do wrong?
Thanks für your help and kind regards
Martin
Zone 33 Martin Hofer
Cinema Design Realisation Integration Assistance
Kirchrain 37 CH-3232 Ins/Anet
T: +41 32 510 14 14 M: +41 79 218 25 24
F: +41 86 079 218 25 24 E: cinema(a)zone33.info
Hi Carl,
I have color graded a project in Resolve 12.5, color management is set to Rec.709 gamma 2.4, monitored the same on a Flanders. Taking it in to DCP-O-matic and I see the Rec.709 preset is locked at 2.2. If I change the gamma it changes the preset to BT1886. Is it safe to say this would be correct? I have seen debate as to whether BT1886 is the same as Rec709, but with a 2.4 gamma spec. I'm not an expert on this.
Thanks in advance and thank you for the work you do on this software.
Thanks
Todd Gilpin
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> Am 06.08.2017 um 08:51 schrieb John Martin <John(a)trinitytheatre.net <mailto:John@trinitytheatre.net>>:
>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> Thanks – yes you are right it is a 24/25 framerate issue – although I am only using one file. However if I set it at 24 it plays on the projector fine – so problem solved! J
It’s a bit unusual that this happens with a single file. Normally, even when doing 24->25 or 25->24 fps, DCP-o-matic should adjust both video and audio accordingly to match from beginning to end.
If this happens again to you, it would be interesting to hear more details - file type, DOM version, maybe a copy of your metadata file.
- Carsten
Hi John,
approx one minute in 30min sounds like a 24/25fps issue. That IS usually no issue, you are free to generate a DCP with either 24 or 25 fps in both SMPTE or INTEROP format - except if you operate a Dolby DSS100/DSP100, which is not able to play 25fps. There are still quite a few DSS100/DSP100 around, so if there is a chance your DCP might end up on one of those, you should also create a 24fps version.
This should not occur with a single (interleaved video/audio) file of content, so I assume you use more than one content file?
- Carsten
> Am 31.07.2017 um 08:00 schrieb John Martin <John(a)trinitytheatre.net>:
>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> Thank you for coming back so quickly – the answer appears to be framerate – the software was prompting me to change it – but if I ignore that it remains the same length.
>
> I will test it when I am in the theatre today.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Best regards
>
> John Martin
> Artistic Director
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> From: Carsten Kurz [mailto:audiovisual@t-online.de <mailto:audiovisual@t-online.de>]
> Sent: 30 July 2017 14:19
> To: John Martin; dcpomatic(a)carlh.net <mailto:dcpomatic@carlh.net>
> Subject: Re: [DCP-o-matic] DCP issue
>
> Open timeline view and check wether there is an overlapping/longer audio track, or subtitles. If any non-video track is longer than the video, DOM creates black to match overall length. This could also be caused by framerate changes.
> Are you sure that black is not part of the source content? If it is, you can apply trimming to get rid of it.
>
> - Carsten
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> Am 30.07.2017 um 14:37 schrieb John Martin via DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net <mailto:dcpomatic@carlh.net>>:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using DCP -o – matic to create a DCP from a video file that runs 30 minutes. In the authoring process it is adding an extra minute of black at the end.
>
> As this is part of a scheduled show it is causing problems with the timing of what comes afterwards as well as causing our projectionists to think that there has been some sort of failure!
>
> Would you know what is causing this and how I might solve the problem?
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> John Martin
> Artistic Director
>
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Hi,
I am using DCP -o - matic to create a DCP from a video file that runs 30 minutes. In the authoring process it is adding an extra minute of black at the end.
As this is part of a scheduled show it is causing problems with the timing of what comes afterwards as well as causing our projectionists to think that there has been some sort of failure!
Would you know what is causing this and how I might solve the problem?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards
John Martin
Artistic Director
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Hi…
…not the first time I do that but today I fail…
DCP-O-Matic 2.10.5 git 61b5d4ad8 on Ubuntu 14.04.
I have a dvd to convert to dcp.
First thing I did was concatenate the 4 vob into one file :
cat VTS_01_1.VOB VTS_01_2.VOB VTS_01_3.VOB VTS_01_4.VOB | ffmpeg -i -
brialy.mp4
Then I use some personal script to get some kind of 5.1 sound → file
becomes brialy_51.mov
Now in DCP-o-Matic conversion always stops @ same number of images (
about 4500 ).
There's some warning in log @ line 2407 FFmpeg: Warning: data is not
aligned! This can lead to a speedloss
Files attached are log, ffprobe.log andmy script for 5.1 upmix.
I suspect more has to be done regarding « concatenate » the vob into one
single.
Any hints / help welcome.
Best regards,
Gerald
The Desktop PC that we use to run DCP-o-matic just died (smoke started
pouring out of it actually) does anyone have recommendations on PC
specifications, or a make/model that they've had good luck with?
Thanks in Advance
J-sun Bailey
Hi all.
Every now I get a BD that needs to be converted to DCP, usually because the
content isn't out on DCP or it's a pre-release for a special screening of
some sorts.
This time the BD content actually has a Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track, which is
the obvious choice, as the screening is in a 7.1 room.
As I usually do, I create a mkv file with subtitles and the desired track
by using MakeMKV.
DOM sees both the subtitle track and the 7.1 audio track which I can then
map accordingly when I set ''12 - 7.1/HI/VI
However, when clicking the 'analyze audio' button, everything comes to a
halt.
After churning for 3 hours, the ETA was 273 hours! :D
That is somewhat excessive and I am thinking there might be a bug
somewhere, as I can see Carsten and others have mentioned in the forums
(DOM and Film-Tech) that they successfully have used Dolby TrueHD tracks in
their DCPs.
I'd rather not waste the time encoding the DCP if the levels are too high,
so maybe someone can comment on this behavior?
DOM v2.10.5
Win10 Pro
Best regards,
Jonathan