Not to pile on, but rather to put these graphics into the mix should this thread help
anyone in the future…
Here are two shots from the site
that show an
RGB file that is converted to XYZ. It doesn’t take into account other changes like 2.6
gamma and white point differences.
RGB
XYZ
On Jun 17, 2017, at 06:14 000AM, Carsten Kurz via
DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
Another ‚indicator‘ - I took your rec709.TIFF, fed it through OpenDCP to make an
XYZ-transformed J2C from it. Then converted to TIFF (with no color transform). That is, to
see how a ‚proper‘ XYZ-TIFF of that content should look like, compared to the version that
the post house delivered. See attached picture (clockrec709_xyz.tiff)
This XYZ-TIFF converted from the rec709.TIFF looks very different from the post house
version. Of course, I also fed this XYZ-TIFF through DCP-o-matic, applied ‚no color
conversion‘ - and the result in the DCP looks identical to the rec709 version (aside from
some minor gamma changes, but that shouldn’t bother us for now (rec709, 16Bit/8Bit, etc.).
I also attached three snapshots from the same DCP, converted from all these sources with
DOM:
- first image (DCP_snap_TIFF_XYZ_org.png) is what you know - the original posthouse
XYZ-TIFF converted to DCP with ‚none‘ - greenish clock
- second image (DCP_snap_TIFF_rec709_org.png) is your original rec709.TIFF, converted to
DCP with the rec709/sRGB conversion - white clock
- third image (DCP_snap_TIFF_rec709_XYZ.png) is the rec709.TIFF, converted to
XYZ->J2C->XYZ-TIFF, and then again converted to DCP, again with ‚none‘ - white
clock.
You see that this XYZ-TIFF I created from the rec709.TIFF, with no color conversion
applied in DOM now matches the rec709 and thus your preferred look very closely.
Now, I am not a color scientist, but to me this seems to prove that whatever the post
house gave you was not made to transfer 1:1 into a DCI J2C/MXF…
So I’d get back to them and try to solve it with them.
- Carsten
<clockrec709_xyz.tiff><DCP_snap_TIFF_XYZ_org.png>
<DCP_snap_TIFF_rec709_org.png><DCP_snap_TIFF_rec709_XYZ.png>
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