Great anecdote, which nails exactly 90-some percent of the problem. Yet TASA refuse to
look at even looking at adapting or changing or anything else.
But looking at the preliminary results of Jame’s Gardiner’s new tool, these trailers may
all be certified at 85 dB LEQm by the two TASA certifiers – and his tool shows the LEQm
numbers at or below 85 too – but the trailers are banging Tru Peak and LUFTs right up to
the bar. And, like you say of that movie, some of these trailers are for low-key movies.
Indeed, it is going to be a learning process, a political process, a technical process,
then repeat repeat repeat.
Myself, I am finding more and more that because the movie has been turned down that I
can’t understand the dialog…a counter-intuitive effect of the perception problems that our
hearing systems generate when the Equal Loudness Curves are accommodated for. I am
working on a training piece that shows it in colors using a similar problem that the human
visual system has, the perception of hue changes when only white is added to a color (the
Abney effect) and how that and luminance level shifts changes hue (Bezold–Brucke) – a
temporary solution might be for an auditorium to map areas of the room where the volume is
a few dB lower and steer customers to those spots instead of turning the movie down.
Oh, and thanks! C J
On Nov 28, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Carsten Kurz via
DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
Loudness In Cinema
<https://www.dcinematools.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1879:loudness-in-cinema-ibc-2016-presentation&catid=114:white-papers-exhib&Itemid=176>
Hi CJ,
good reading. Indeed many people think that an automated approach could solve these
issues.
Imho, the non-technical issues are the dominant ones. Audience expectations and habits,
cinema/chains habits, audio engineers expectations and habits, staff education.
I remember watching 'The pursuit of happiness' a long time ago with my aged
father-in-law.
Not exactly known as an excruciating action loaded ear blasting flic.
Well, we couldn't avoid sitting through some advertising before the main movie
started.
Years later, whenever we talked about cinema in general, or that specific movie, he was
still complaining how effin loud that movie was.
In fact it wasn't loud at all, it was one damned 30second candy ad right at the
beginning of the show that at the time wasn't leveled to any standard and that staff
didn't bother to adjust level for. He couldn't remember what the movie was about
or anything else, but he still knew that it was too loud to remember it as a joyful
experience.
- Carsten
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