On Thu, 7 Apr 2022, Ignition Films via DCP-o-matic users wrote:
I just wanted to congratulate you on your DCP project
– I love it and
I’m sure many others do as well. I rarely have the need to create to
DCP files but there is a special documentary project I’ve just
completed that is set to screen in a cinema here in Brisbane,
Australia and I intend to use DCP O’Matic. I’ve made a donation.
Thanks for the kind words and the donation!
My question is about audio and I’ve included two
screenshots attached
here as reference. In one of the shots ‘WITH’ I have applied the Mid
Side decoder and I see it turns off the 6 boxes that control the
speakers and keeps only left and right. Is this the correct way to
apply what you describe as the MS Processor to achieve some centre
speaker effect in the cinema? And should I change the channels from
6-5.1 to 2 channels – or 3 or 4?
If you enable the Mid-Side decoder it will take the first two channels
of your audio (probably left and right) and process them to produce
left, right and centre according to some reasonably straightforward
maths:
Output left and right = (Input left - Input right) / 2
Output centre = (Input left + input right) / 2
In terms of sound this means we put the things that are common to the
left and right inputs into the centre, and the differences go into the
sides. It's a fairly reliable way to create a centre speaker from
"nothing" as it were.
In this case you could reduce the DCP channel count to 4, but it's not
so important because any unused channels will be made silent anyway (and
your DCP will take up a lot of disk space much more because of the video
than the audio).
In the 2nd screenshot ‘WITHOUT’ I did not turn on the
Mid Side decoder
but instead added -12db to the centre speaker boxes shown in the
screenshot. Will this achieve the same or similar result as adding the
MS processor (or mid side decoder as it called on the software.) Would
-12db be about the equivalent to the automatic mid side decoder
setting or should I make it -6db or even -3db? I can see the graphs
are very different.
This is similar to the mid-side decoding (but not quite the same). -6dB
should make the centre the same as it would be with the mid-side, though
your left and right channels will be a little different. The way it
sounds would depend on the source material but I would guess it would be
not make a massive difference.
By using the six content speaker boxes I could make an
imitation 5.1
mix by experimenting with these settings?
You could indeed make something come out of every speaker in this way.
But making what you might think of as a "real" 5.1 mix is not so simple
- putting the same audio in every speaker is not enough. Indeed, doing
that is quite likely to not sound very good.
In my humble opinion it is better to leave the surround speakers silent
than to fill them with some signal which is more-or-less the same as
that in the left and right front speakers.
All the best,
Carl
Thank you for your help.
Simon Toy,
Director
Ignition Films Pty Ltd
0419 122 943 07 3355 7641
simon(a)ignitionfilms.com.au
www.ignitionfilms.com.au