5 Nov
2015
5 Nov
'15
1:52 p.m.
Hi all,
DCP-o-matic is now available from:
http://dcpomatic.com/download
It contains the following changes:
Updated nl_NL translation from Rob van Nieuwkerk.
Updated ru_RU translation from Igor Voytovich.
Updated pl_PL translation from Marek Skrzelowski.
Updated it_IT translation from Davide Dall'AraCiao.
Updated da_DK translation from Anders Uhl Pedersen.
Updated fr_FR translation from Thierry Journet.
New pt_PT translation from Tiago Casal Ribeiro.
Add new KDM Creator tool which can make new KDMs from arbitrary DKDMs.
Basic support for creating multi-reel DCPs.
Better progress indication when finding subtitles (#711).
Tweaks to upmixer filters to improve Lfe.
Improve server GUI and distribute it with OS X and Windows installers.
Speed up preview of video files with subtitles.
Improve sorting of image filenames when importing a set.
Draw reels in the timeline.
Add button to export private keys from the configuration.
Various fixes to multi-reel.
Fixes for some crashes in the KDM creator on Windows.
Fix incorrect preview of italic subtitles (#728).
Fix incorrect colourspace conversion of XYZ content when it is not being passed
through untouched (#730).
Fix erroneous addition of referenced assets to PKLs (#723).
Fix badly-formatted attachments to KDM emails.
Fix various problems with embedded subtitles.
Fix VF creation from multi-reel DCPs.
Fix decoding of multi-part bitmap subtitles (#709).
Fix timing of subtitles when a DCP is created at a different rate to the subtitle
native rate.
Fix invalid DCP subtitles in some cases.
Fix strange job progress layout on OS X.
Fix non-update of timeline when reel setup changes.
Fixes to font handling for SMPTE subtitles.
Only show existing DCP channels in the audio dialogue (#715).
Speed up audio filters used by upmixers.
Tweak frequency response of some filters used by upmixers.
Possibly fix crash on audio analysis in some locales.
Use nicer defaults for certificate chains.
Small tweaks to the frequency response of Upmixer A.
Thanks to Rob van Nieuwkerk, Igor Voytovich, Marek Skrzelowski, Davide
Dall'AraCiao, Anders Uhl Pedersen, Tiago Casal Ribeiro, Thierry Journet
and Lilian Lefranc.
Three new supporters have been added since 2.4.0: thanks to Erwan
Kerzanet, Daniel Martinez Lara and Silvio Bonomi.
With best regards,
Carl
5 Nov
5 Nov
3:34 p.m.
You forgot to mention the new fancy icons, at least in OSX :D
> Basic support for creating multi-reel DCPs.
Working with subtitles and "handcrafting" CPLs from time to time... I
hate multireels and their messy XMLs. So, why I tried to convince Carl
about adding it ?and I'm so happy it's finally a reality.
Set the custom size lower than 4 GB and you get FAT32 friendly DCPs!!!
Maybe not a thing for some people, but I see that as a game changer.
So many people fails at creating the physical copy and end up being my
clients (and then we convince them to use torrent), and receiving
badly formatted disks is such a pain.
Thanks Carl and all who helped make this possible!
Manuel AC
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Carl Hetherington via DCPomatic
<dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
Hi all,
DCP-o-matic is now available from:
Thanks to Rob van Nieuwkerk, Igor Voytovich, Marek Skrzelowski, Davide
Dall'AraCiao, Anders Uhl Pedersen, Tiago Casal Ribeiro, Thierry Journet
and Lilian Lefranc.
Three new supporters have been added since 2.4.0: thanks to Erwan
Kerzanet, Daniel Martinez Lara and Silvio Bonomi.
With best regards,
Carl
10 Nov
10 Nov
9:04 p.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Hi,
using v2.5.0 with ubuntu OS.
I'm trying to encode a DCP from a VOB file which is 940,8 Mo.
It's a short movie lasting 16 minutes.
For the moment DoM only seems to see a 16… seconds content.
Are there any hints about DVD ?
Thanx…
9:12 p.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Last time I did a DVD it wrongly recognized as 60 fps the NTSC source.
It's the speed right?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Gérald Maruccia <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
Hi,
using v2.5.0 with ubuntu OS.
I'm trying to encode a DCP from a VOB file which is 940,8 Mo.
It's a short movie lasting 16 minutes.
For the moment DoM only seems to see a 16… seconds content.
Are there any hints about DVD ?
Thanx…
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10 p.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Hey.
Funny you ask, I did a DVD today.
Used MakeMKV to transfer it and wrap it in MKV container. Then ran it
through DoM.
It's currently encoding, but everything looked fine, so I'm sure it's fine.
Done it plenty of times before.
It does sound like you didn't get the DVD transferred properly. Did you
just copy the file from the DVD to your harddrive or did you use some kind
of 'ripping' software?
Just copying usually doesn't work.
Best regards, Jonathan
On Nov 10, 2015 22:15, "Manuel AC via DCPomatic" <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net>
wrote:
Last time I did a DVD it wrongly recognized as 60 fps
the NTSC source.
It's the speed right?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Gérald Maruccia <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net>
wrote:
Hi,
using v2.5.0 with ubuntu OS.
I'm trying to encode a DCP from a VOB file which is 940,8 Mo.
It's a short movie lasting 16 minutes.
For the moment DoM only seems to see a 16… seconds content.
Are there any hints about DVD ?
Thanx…
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10:49 p.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
If the DVD is not encrypted it should work directly from the vob
files, without ripping. Or ripping to deCSS the VOB files first
(because you have the rights? right?!)
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan K. F. Jensen
<jkf.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey.
Funny you ask, I did a DVD today.
Used MakeMKV to transfer it and wrap it in MKV container. Then ran it
through DoM.
It's currently encoding, but everything looked fine, so I'm sure it's fine.
Done it plenty of times before.
It does sound like you didn't get the DVD transferred properly. Did you just
copy the file from the DVD to your harddrive or did you use some kind of
'ripping' software?
Just copying usually doesn't work.
Best regards, Jonathan
On Nov 10, 2015 22:15, "Manuel AC via DCPomatic" <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net>
wrote:
>
> Last time I did a DVD it wrongly recognized as 60 fps the NTSC source.
> It's the speed right?
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Gérald Maruccia <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > using v2.5.0 with ubuntu OS.
> >
> > I'm trying to encode a DCP from a VOB file which is 940,8 Mo.
> >
> > It's a short movie lasting 16 minutes.
> >
> > For the moment DoM only seems to see a 16… seconds content.
> >
> > Are there any hints about DVD ?
> >
> > Thanx…
> >
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11:37 p.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Hi all,
The problem with VOBs, as I understand it, is that they only definitely
make sense when the whole set of them are joined together. An
individual VOB file may start half way through a video packet and have
no header information at all.
I think the most reliable way, as Jonathan says, is to rip to a
complete MKV (or whatever) and then work with that.
If you have an individual VOB which DCP-o-matic is misunderstanding
there is not very much that can be done. You can force the frame rate
to whatever you like, but you can't (easily) fix an incorrectly-read
length from the header.
Re-wrapping your VOB using FFmpeg or similar might be the best bet.
Regards,
Carl
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 17:49:43 -0500
Manuel AC via DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
If the DVD is not encrypted it should work directly
from the vob
files, without ripping. Or ripping to deCSS the VOB files first
(because you have the rights? right?!)
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan K. F. Jensen
<jkf.jensen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey.
Funny you ask, I did a DVD today.
Used MakeMKV to transfer it and wrap it in MKV container. Then ran
it through DoM.
It's currently encoding, but everything looked fine, so I'm sure
it's fine. Done it plenty of times before.
It does sound like you didn't get the DVD transferred properly. Did
you just copy the file from the DVD to your harddrive or did you
use some kind of 'ripping' software?
Just copying usually doesn't work.
Best regards, Jonathan
On Nov 10, 2015 22:15, "Manuel AC via DCPomatic"
<dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
>
> Last time I did a DVD it wrongly recognized as 60 fps the NTSC
> source. It's the speed right?
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Gérald Maruccia
> <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > using v2.5.0 with ubuntu OS.
> >
> > I'm trying to encode a DCP from a VOB file which is 940,8 Mo.
> >
> > It's a short movie lasting 16 minutes.
> >
> > For the moment DoM only seems to see a 16… seconds content.
> >
> > Are there any hints about DVD ?
> >
> > Thanx…
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > DCPomatic mailing list
> > DCPomatic(a)carlh.net
> > http://main.carlh.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dcpomatic
> >
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11 Nov
11 Nov
12:03 a.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Am 11.11.2015 um 00:37 schrieb Carl Hetherington via DCPomatic:
The problem with VOBs, as I understand it, is that
they only definitely
make sense when the whole set of them are joined together. An
individual VOB file may start half way through a video packet and have
no header information at all.
That's right, there is an internal timecode that can get mixed up.
I use MPEG StreamClip to fix this - it will recognize segmented VOBs and broken timecode,
fix it, then you can write a complete 'proper' MPEG2 file without recompression
and insert it in DOM. Needs very little time and effort. Old, but still a valuable tool
for all sorts of things.
- Carsten
11:11 a.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Hello everyone !
Thanx for all the answers and ideas !
- frame rate seems correctly assumed → 25 fps
- about those DVD → they are sent to me by the legal owner of the movie
The header/timecode thing seems to be the problem here.
So your advice is to wrap that VOB file into [put examples here] with
ffmpeg ?
(I have already encoded DCP from DVD and I did not need to do that. Was
I lucky then ?)
Other question, DoM automatically sets color profile to REC609 → does it
sound correct ?
(those DVD look good quality, at least on my pc's screens, with a nice
contrast and black looking… black)
Thanks again !
Gérald
Le 11/11/2015 01:03, Carsten Kurz via DCPomatic a écrit :
Am 11.11.2015 um 00:37 schrieb Carl Hetherington via
DCPomatic:
The problem with VOBs, as I understand it, is
that they only definitely
make sense when the whole set of them are joined together. An
individual VOB file may start half way through a video packet and have
no header information at all.
That's right, there is an internal timecode that can get mixed up.
I use MPEG StreamClip to fix this - it will recognize segmented VOBs and broken timecode,
fix it, then you can write a complete 'proper' MPEG2 file without recompression
and insert it in DOM. Needs very little time and effort. Old, but still a valuable tool
for all sorts of things.
- Carsten
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11:25 a.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Am 11.11.2015 um 12:11 schrieb Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic:
So your advice is to wrap that VOB file into [put
examples here] with ffmpeg ?
Simply, into a correctly flagged MPEG2 file with proper segment concatenation and TC.
(I have already encoded DCP from DVD and I did not need to do that. Was I lucky then ?)
Yes, it depends on the DVD file segmentation structure. E.g. with a shortfilm compilation
you are less likely to run into this issues than with a full length feature film.
Other question, DoM automatically sets color profile
to REC609 → does it sound correct ?
Yes, that is for SD.
Install MPEG Streamclip. Open the first VOB with it. It will notify you that this seems to
be part of a DVD and wether you want to open the remaining VOBs as well. Afterwards, it
will, if necessary, ask you wether it should fix broken timecode. This all goes within a
few seconds. You can then write out a proper MPEG2 file with headers, which is only a
copy-process.
Depending on your system config, you may need to install Quicktime or Quicktime
Alternative.
There are probably other software options as well to do this, incl. FFMPEG.
MPEG Streamclip always worked for me.
14 Nov
14 Nov
11:23 a.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
(part 1)
Hello !
I did some experimentations with
- handbrake
- ffmpeg
It seems to work with handbrake but the final DCP has two (very) short
moments where picture is «pixelised» : fading/melting between two
scenes. I have to re-check the source dvd maybe it's already there in.
With ffmpeg I tried :
ffmpeg -i file.VOB -c:a copy -c:v copy out.mpg
and it may not be enough ;-) Should I precise framerate, format, the
building of a timecode ?
For one DVD, the mpg file /as seen in DoM/ had the right duration and
framerate.
But another one had totally weird values :
125 fps instead of 25
2h22min12s11f length instead of 0h28min20s23f
→ what is strange to my eyes is when right click for properties straight
on that second mpg file, I can see correct values for framerate and
duration but DoM shows other ?
→ I manually modified in DoM and I'll test very soon the DCP.
(There is one short movie 15-30min per dvd)
(os is ubuntu 14.04 64bits)
…to be continued ;-)
G.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(part 2)
had the time to test the DCP and there is at least one issue :
the sound is out of sync on some parts of the movie.
30 Nov
30 Nov
10:39 a.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Do you have the DVD itself? I still think your best bet would be to
try something like MakeMKV to just rip everything to a .mkv file. That
has always worked for me. Using VOBs directly is extremely fiddly and
prone to problems.
Cheers,
Carl
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:23:27 +0100
Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
(part 1)
Hello !
I did some experimentations with
- handbrake
- ffmpeg
It seems to work with handbrake but the final DCP has two (very)
short moments where picture is «pixelised» : fading/melting between
two scenes. I have to re-check the source dvd maybe it's already
there in.
With ffmpeg I tried :
ffmpeg -i file.VOB -c:a copy -c:v copy out.mpg
and it may not be enough ;-) Should I precise framerate, format, the
building of a timecode ?
For one DVD, the mpg file /as seen in DoM/ had the right duration and
framerate.
But another one had totally weird values :
125 fps instead of 25
2h22min12s11f length instead of 0h28min20s23f
→ what is strange to my eyes is when right click for properties
straight on that second mpg file, I can see correct values for
framerate and duration but DoM shows other ?
→ I manually modified in DoM and I'll test very soon the DCP.
(There is one short movie 15-30min per dvd)
(os is ubuntu 14.04 64bits)
…to be continued ;-)
G.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(part 2)
had the time to test the DCP and there is at least one issue :
the sound is out of sync on some parts of the movie.
11:23 a.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
I indeed ended up to rip everything to mkv using handbrake.
I'm not sure about my audio settings in handbrake but resulting DCP was
acceptable.
Changing framerate in handbrake from 25 to 24 fps is not a good idea too :
it just drops one image each second instead of slowing down them all.
Le 30/11/2015 11:39, Carl Hetherington via DCPomatic a écrit :
Do you have the DVD itself? I still think your best
bet would be to
try something like MakeMKV to just rip everything to a .mkv file. That
has always worked for me. Using VOBs directly is extremely fiddly and
prone to problems.
Cheers,
Carl
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:23:27 +0100
Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic <dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
(part 1)
Hello !
I did some experimentations with
- handbrake
- ffmpeg
It seems to work with handbrake but the final DCP has two (very)
short moments where picture is «pixelised» : fading/melting between
two scenes. I have to re-check the source dvd maybe it's already
there in.
With ffmpeg I tried :
ffmpeg -i file.VOB -c:a copy -c:v copy out.mpg
and it may not be enough ;-) Should I precise framerate, format, the
building of a timecode ?
For one DVD, the mpg file /as seen in DoM/ had the right duration and
framerate.
But another one had totally weird values :
125 fps instead of 25
2h22min12s11f length instead of 0h28min20s23f
→ what is strange to my eyes is when right click for properties
straight on that second mpg file, I can see correct values for
framerate and duration but DoM shows other ?
→ I manually modified in DoM and I'll test very soon the DCP.
(There is one short movie 15-30min per dvd)
(os is ubuntu 14.04 64bits)
…to be continued ;-)
G.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(part 2)
had the time to test the DCP and there is at least one issue :
the sound is out of sync on some parts of the movie.
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New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Am 30.11.2015 um 12:23 schrieb Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic:
I indeed ended up to rip everything to mkv using
handbrake.
I'm not sure about my audio settings in handbrake but resulting DCP was acceptable.
Your choices may be different on Linux machines, but I would recommend going with MakeMKV
- simply because it leaves he content untouched and does a 1:1 transfer to MKV containers
only.
DCP-o-matic will deal nicely with this then.
- Carsten
2:19 p.m.
New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
+1 for MakeMKV, a recent discovery for me, and a really good one!
For standards conversion try JES deinterlacer, a surprisingly good
little program. http://jeschot.home.xs4all.nl/home.html
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Carsten Kurz via DCPomatic
<dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
Am 30.11.2015 um 12:23 schrieb Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic:
I indeed ended up to rip everything to mkv using handbrake.
I'm not sure about my audio settings in handbrake but resulting DCP was
acceptable.
Your choices may be different on Linux machines, but I would recommend going
with MakeMKV - simply because it leaves he content untouched and does a 1:1
transfer to MKV containers only.
DCP-o-matic will deal nicely with this then.
- Carsten
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New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
MakeMKV is for Linux too it seems (though I haven't tried it on that
platform yet).
See here for instructions:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
On 30 November 2015 at 15:19, Manuel AC via DCPomatic
<dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
+1 for MakeMKV, a recent discovery for me, and a
really good one!
For standards conversion try JES deinterlacer, a surprisingly good
little program. http://jeschot.home.xs4all.nl/home.html
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Carsten Kurz via DCPomatic
<dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
Am 30.11.2015 um 12:23 schrieb Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic:
I indeed ended up to rip everything to mkv using handbrake.
I'm not sure about my audio settings in handbrake but resulting DCP was
acceptable.
Your choices may be different on Linux machines, but I would recommend going
with MakeMKV - simply because it leaves he content untouched and does a 1:1
transfer to MKV containers only.
DCP-o-matic will deal nicely with this then.
- Carsten
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New subject: [DCP-o-matic] DCP from a VOB source ? Re: DCP-o-matic 2.5.0 released
Yes indeed, it has always worked fine on Linux for me.
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015, Jonathan K. F. Jensen via DCPomatic wrote:
MakeMKV is for Linux too it seems (though I
haven't tried it on that
platform yet).
See here for instructions:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
On 30 November 2015 at 15:19, Manuel AC via DCPomatic
<dcpomatic(a)carlh.net> wrote:
+1 for MakeMKV, a recent discovery for me, and a
really good one!
For standards conversion try JES deinterlacer, a surprisingly good
little program. http://jeschot.home.xs4all.nl/home.html
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Am 30.11.2015 um 12:23 schrieb Gérald Maruccia via DCPomatic:
I indeed ended up to rip everything to mkv using handbrake.
I'm not sure about my audio settings in handbrake but resulting DCP was
acceptable.
Your choices may be different on Linux machines, but I would recommend going
with MakeMKV - simply because it leaves he content untouched and does a 1:1
transfer to MKV containers only.
DCP-o-matic will deal nicely with this then.
- Carsten
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